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PostSubject: The big "I want to learn Dutch!"-topic   Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:50 am

I thought starting this topic might be a good idea, since a lot of you mentioned that you want to learn Dutch, mainly because Epica is from The Netherlands.

Dutch is a Germanic language spoken in Holland, a part of Belgium, Suriname, Curaçao, Aruba, Bonaire, Saba, Sint Maarten, and Sint Eustatius. There are 22 million people who's native language is Dutch, which is a very low amount of people (English --> 400 million).

Ofcourse, I can help/teach you, though, it will be really hard to learn Dutch. Foreigners always tell me that learning Dutch is the hardest language to learn on earth. You can check YouTube for the pronounciation of the alpabet, counting, etc.


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Download this program; Teach2000
It's a program, in which you can learn words, sentences, etc.
It's Dutch, but you can change it's settings:

Instellingen (in the top, at the left) ---> Instellingen ---> Taal van het programma. Next to it there's a white thingie, there you can pick the language you want.
For this program, I will make some vocabulary for those who are interested in having these, with just some basic Dutch words and sentences.


If you need help with writing a letter or something, you can always click my PM button! Smile



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PostSubject: Re: The big "I want to learn Dutch!"-topic   Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:58 am

thanks! I've started already. NICE THREAD! Think I NEED to learn it, since I'll live there Wink
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PostSubject: Re: The big "I want to learn Dutch!"-topic   Thu Dec 30, 2010 8:26 am

Awesome!
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PostSubject: Re: The big "I want to learn Dutch!"-topic   Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:51 pm

XD I'm already learning from a Dutch friend Smile He's moving to England soon too!

Wat is lutch? Razz

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PostSubject: Re: The big "I want to learn Dutch!"-topic   Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:21 am

Am, it will be piece of cake for you.I think there's a lot of similarity between Norwegian & Dutch. For those who know German, Dutch can be easy too once you know the basic stuff.

There are many people who write you in Dutch as u, because of a translator. U is formal, but the 'normal' to say you is jij or je.

Personal pronouns:
I - ik
You - jij/je
You (formal, eldery) - u
He - hij
She - zij/ze
It - het
We - wij/we ('we' is not pronounced as 'we' in English, the 'e' is more like the 'u' in us)
You (as in.. several persons, not including you) - jullie
They - zij

Verb 'to be' ---> 'zijn':
I am - Ik ben
You are - Jij/je/u bent
He is - Hij is
She is - Zij/ze is
It is - Het is
We are - Wij/we zijn
You are - Jullie zijn
They are - Zij zijn

I'll put some basic words in Teach2000 know, PM me (with your e-mailaddress) if you're interested!
Also some sentences, like 'I love you' etc. Razz

Are there some suggestions on themes of the vocabulary?

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PostSubject: Re: The big "I want to learn Dutch!"-topic   Fri Dec 31, 2010 8:25 pm

Nice thread,it's nice to learn some dutch basics! Smile Thank youEline! Smile

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PostSubject: Re: The big "I want to learn Dutch!"-topic   Fri Dec 31, 2010 8:28 pm

Beau taught me the rules of using 3 types of 'you': je,jij,jou.

He said jij is a singular version of 'you' and is used to distinguish a certain person. It's used at the end of a question such as 'and you?' which would be en jij?
Beau aslo said je is singular use of 'you' but it's just easy speak, as is the same with jou

I realised simple phrases in Dutch tend to use jou as opposed to je. Whereas longer sentences with much more complexity uses je.

Is this all correct?

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PostSubject: Re: The big "I want to learn Dutch!"-topic   Sat Jan 01, 2011 1:26 am

The first Dutch word I learned was "Slet" xD Epicans are crazy, Yves thought I needed to know that xD
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PostSubject: Re: The big "I want to learn Dutch!"-topic   Sat Jan 01, 2011 3:36 am

^ Hahahaha, 'slett' is delete or something in Norwegian, right?

And you're right Tay!

Jou is used as indirect object.

Example:
I give you a present
Ik geef jou een cadeau

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PostSubject: Re: The big "I want to learn Dutch!"-topic   Sat Jan 01, 2011 6:04 am

Cadeau is the same as in French¡?
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PostSubject: Re: The big "I want to learn Dutch!"-topic   Sat Jan 01, 2011 9:07 am

yes dat is in french but In 'Nederlands' Too
you can say too : geschenk but cadeau it's 'plus/more' popular ... Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: The big "I want to learn Dutch!"-topic   Sat Jan 01, 2011 9:38 am

I have a doubt: The Dutch language that is spoken in The Netherlands is the same which is spoken in Belgium?
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PostSubject: Re: The big "I want to learn Dutch!"-topic   Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:05 am

Some words are different, but those words I can understand if I think about it. It's like ehm... Swedish and Norwegian, American English & British. Something like that, hahaha. Belgian accent is very cute in my humble opinion, that's why I think Isaac's so adorable. Cloud 9

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PostSubject: Re: The big "I want to learn Dutch!"-topic   Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:59 am

That's NOT SOMETHING YOU SHOULD COMPARE IT BY. Olof (amaranthe) and I, he's swedish and I'm Norwegian, we have to speak enligsh to understand each other. x) Quite different languages. american enligsh and british english are the same language.
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PostSubject: Re: The big "I want to learn Dutch!"-topic   Sat Jan 01, 2011 4:48 pm

Well american english and english have their differenmces too,.and not only the accent.There are some different words plus americans sometimes write different.For example in english it's written 'colour',.while in american english is 'color' Razz

Well,.I'm not an english geek,.so don't ask me if this is correct or not XD

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PostSubject: Re: The big "I want to learn Dutch!"-topic   Sat Jan 01, 2011 7:42 pm

Sorry Am, I thought it had a lot of similarities. xD

Taking a shower (American) and having a shower (British) is quite some difference too. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: The big "I want to learn Dutch!"-topic   Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:19 pm

LOL. I'm Canadian and WE have our own style of English too! As does Australia.
I find American English so horrible and nasally, whereas in British English they place Rs where THERE ARE NONE. Like in the word 'can't' they say it like car-n-t. There's no R idiota.

In Canadian English we say things like can't as can-t how it's supposed to be said! XD
So yeah, for all 'branches' of English there are many different prnounciations!
And typical me I say CANADIAN ENGLISH IS BEST! XD

NOW, can we go back to learning Dutch? Razz

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PostSubject: Re: The big "I want to learn Dutch!"-topic   Sun Jan 02, 2011 12:11 am

^I don't understand what you meant with rs.So the British English speakers adjust 'r' or 's' at random moments in words like in the example with can't? Laughing

Sorry,but I was curious XD

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PostSubject: Re: The big "I want to learn Dutch!"-topic   Sun Jan 02, 2011 12:47 am

^ I meant R + plural so - Rs would be more than one R XD I'm rubbish at conveying things!

But yes it annoys me so much when they prounounce 'car-n-t'. Evil or Very Mad

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PostSubject: Re: The big "I want to learn Dutch!"-topic   Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:02 am

I think I got the point XD

I don't know,I haven't heared many British people speaking,but I defintely notoced that can't is spoken in a very strange way Razz

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PostSubject: Re: The big "I want to learn Dutch!"-topic   Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:15 am

Razz Seeeeeeeee!
Same as words like: grass and glass.

They pronounce as gr-arse
Dude there is no arse is your grass if there was I'd be worried. XD

Sorry, I'm so bad with my jokes.

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PostSubject: Re: The big "I want to learn Dutch!"-topic   Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:28 am

This is rather hilarious. Laughing

How many different accents are there in the UK?
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PostSubject: Re: The big "I want to learn Dutch!"-topic   Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:35 am

really, I think !
same for the Dutch, I have a Dutch accent when I speak while I speak French!
Belgium finally be able to speak both languages ...
But I do not understand the Dutch from Belgium because it is different.
It is called 'Flemish' ('Flamand' in French ).
Therefore, it is no longer Dutch! lol!
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PostSubject: Re: The big "I want to learn Dutch!"-topic   Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:44 am

Berengar wrote:
This is rather hilarious. Laughing

How many different accents are there in the UK?

MANY!
Scouse, Geordie, Cockney, Southern, Welsh, Scottish, Cork Irish, N.Irish, Anglian, Cornish, West London (posh).
They all have different accents but almost the same pronounciations!

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PostSubject: Re: The big "I want to learn Dutch!"-topic   Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:24 am

@Tay car-n-t?? gr-arse??
No way, never heard such a thing!
I'm gonna defend my American accent!! Razz

But really. Never heard car-n-t.... :/

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